Click to expand JPG After experimenting between wood and metal, I don't prefer any kind of wood hoops on snares. But IMO wood hoops on toms are great. I have no experience with the 19 ply Yamaha hoops on toms, only on snares, which wasn't worth the effort for me. Even Andy's solid hoops They definitely do not suck, but they don't crack like a metal hoop.
I think his solid hoops would be great for a player that wants a slightly mellower snare tone, for more of an acoustic jazz tone that has nuances and character. Definitely not an "in your face" hoop tone IMO. More woody. But toms? Yea, all day long, Andy's hoops at least. I can't speak intelligently about chunky ply hoops ala Yamaha on toms, but I will guess that it would sound better than metal hoops on toms.
The wood should weigh less than metal hoops, and everyone knows that the lighter the total weight of the drums, the better, generally speaking. Like everything, it all comes down to personal preference and musical application. IMO, there is a noticeable difference in tone quality between a solid hoop on a snare, and a 19 ply Yamaha wood hoop, with the solid hoop being the more desirable, nuanced tone.
Now the type of wood hoops on Popadoodle Pete's drums, I have zero experience with. They seem to be in a different class, with different characteristics, but that's just a guess. Andy could shed much more light on this. He is the illumined one here. Hey Larry , How you do'in? For what it's worth taking the metal hoops off of the aluminium head hoops makes a big difference to me.
Especially with all maple drums.. Put a thin triple flange on after a diecast, on a snare, or tom.. HUGE difference to me. The trip will sing much more, more over tones, I have some wood hoops on my smaller kit.
I defiantly get a warmer less focused sound on my toms. Add coated toms even more so. Now, lets talk snares. With the wires cranked, or a dual ply you may start off with less resonance. Depending on the hoops he swapped with they could be a similar weight etc If you would have tried some S-hoops, suicide hoops, triple flange, Diecast, and wood.
I think you would be able to tell a significant difference. More so on a snare with some over tones. On a super dead or dry snare, it may have a less noticeable effect on the overtones. I have an Ayotte 14" X 5" maple snare with their style wood hoops and claws. In the three hoop categories—flanged, die-cast, and wood—slight differences in each category have very little effect on the overall sound. Broken drumsticks?
Single- and double-flanged hoops, as well as straight hoops, are pure torture on drumsticks. The upper straight edge of the counterhoop acts like a knife when the stick comes in contact with it, like with rimshots. The evolution of the counterhoop went something like this: We got rid of the obstacles—claw hooks attached to the straight edge of the counterhoop design no flanges.
Then we dumped the claws and designed an integrated T-rod receiver in the single- and double-flanged hoop designs. Then finally—eureka!
Slingerland reversed the upper flange, facing it inward toward the center of the head. I have a couple of Slingerland drums with the reversed flange. Design tweaks like this are even smaller in detail compared with the three hoop types. I say try it—whatever floats your boat. Oh, yes! There are treasures to be uncovered by combining hoop types on a single drum. For instance, on the snare drum I often use a die-cast hoop on the snare-side head to control overtones—coloration—and, to a degree, excessive snare buzz.
Depending on the type of drum shell, I might switch the mix. Single-flanged : very open sound, edge of head vibrates freely, very long sustain. Die-cast : focused sound, edge of head is moderately controlled, moderate sustain.
Wood : very focused sound, edge of head is very controlled, shortest sustain depending on the thickness of the hoop. Stick Saver : moderately focused sound, edge of head is moderately controlled, moderate sustain.
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Thread starter wayne Start date Jun 19, IMO, it looks odd, and cant possibly handle the attack of a very hard striker. I,ve seen the results a few times, and still shake my head when I see them in action. If some of you are pro wood hoops on snare drums, could you explain what im missing?
I do have an old Marching hoop on a kit snare Tom Matthews Well-Known Member. For me, a stainless steel black panther works beautifully.. Why anyone would want a wood hoop snare is frankly beyond me, but I guess its personal preference. They do look odd but then again its sound that is what you look for first I know Tama do a S.
Studio maple, which i'm sure sounds great but makes me want to puke whenever I see it! All down to how you think it sounds though.. One mans trash is another mans treasure. Last edited by a moderator: Oct 12, Zeb Very well Known Member.
Yeah - it's just a different sound. And I can see how a heavy hitting, rim-shot lover could chew one up pretty quick. I've heard some nice sounding snare drums and toms with wood hoops. It's just a matter of whether you like that sound or not.
In some wood snares I've compared, a wood hoop made it sound a little warmer, rounder and fatter, depending on the tuning. The yamaha wood hoops felt a little better I don't know if it really is the eye feeling it or my hands. Joined Mar 4, Messages 10, Reaction score 1,
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